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Heya, MobaFire :3 Ready for a new blog dedication? This one is about comparing the top builds of different sites: LoLPro, SoloMid and MobaFire. I'll only be focusing on the build itself, the skilling order, the runes, masteries and summoner spells dictated for the chosen champions, as these are the things most people will look at/want to know before they try out the champion.

This blog is meant to achieve two things:
1) Compare how similar the top guides are of each site
2) Give readers an idea of an ideal build for the chosen champion

In the comment section, feel free to express your opinions, or nominate the next champion to compare builds for! Until a nomination, I will be going through the champions alphabetically. Next champion to compare builds for is , and if I have no more nominations, I'll go back to alphabetical.

Champions already compared:

SPACEWelcome to Build Comparisons II - Lee Sin!

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LOLPRO: LEE SIN - THE BLIND MONK - by Doublelift

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greater mark of desolation

21 / 09 / 00

R > Q > W > E

Ability Sequence
1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18

Firstly, one must understand that this is a solo top Lee Sin guide, and as such, the item build is far more expensive than what would be tolerated by junglers who don't earn as much gold due to less last hitting. Doublelift skills W over E for more safety whilst laning.

Interestingly he puts a point into AD over . His item build is quite expensive and seems like a mismatch of AD and survivability. His build has lots of armour, damage and magic resist.

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SOLOMID: Jungling the Blind Monk - by TheOddOne

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greater mark of desolation

21 / 09 / 00

R > Q > W > E

Ability Sequence
1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18

TheOddOne's jungle Lee Sin guide is somewhat different from Doublelift's solo top guide, but that's to be expected. Again, flat AD is taken over and the return damage to minions is disregarded for 30+ extra health from .

The beginning of this build is very affordable for the average jungler, and the Wriggle's will keep his health up in the jungle to gank, not to mention having a ward to ward jump. Like Doublelift, TheOddOne specs Q > W > E, even when jungling.

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MOBAFIRE: Listen to their heartbeat - by JakofAllSpaydes

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greater mark of desolation

21 / 09 / 00

R > Q > W > E

Ability Sequence
1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18

JakofAllSpaydes' set-up is somewhat similar to TheOddOne and Doublelifts, but it is significantly different in a few places. He sacrifices AD in the offense tree for and grabs and in the defense tree to help his jungle. His build is expensive for a jungler, but feasible.

Perhaps most surprising is the use of over , or . There also seems to be a semi-late Warmog's in his item purchase.

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Build Comparison - SoloMid, LoLPro and MobaFire for Lee Sin

Starting Items:
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// My Opinion: There are rare exceptions when one can start with a Doran's Blade in any lane. I'm a strong believer in Boots + Pots when starting in a lane without a support who has ample heals. As for the jungle starts, both Vamp Scepter or Boots work fine on Lee Sin.

Core Items - all three Lee Sin players have these items present in their build:

// My Opinion: I find it interesting that one would choose Force of Nature over upgrade, especially on Lee Sin who does a lot of damage and needs to be in the middle of the fight. Perhaps the guides haven't been updated since the introduction of the Maw.

Optional Items - these items were also suggested:

randiun's omen

// My Opinion: As solo top Lee Sin, I would purchase a Wriggle's Lantern because it is such a valuable item. However, Doublelift doesn't have room for this item in his build, as he grabs . The other two authors don't have any armor penetration items in their build. I'm not certain whether a is worth the money compared to another survivability or damage item.

Runes - all three Lee Sin players had these runes in their build:
greater mark of desolation

// My Opinion: Both lane and jungle guides concur that these runes are optimal on Lee Sin. Some ArPen, some AD, some armour and some MR. Pretty standard tanky DPS runes.

Summoner Spells:

// My Opinion: A very diverse set of summoner spells here.
Solo top: Ignite + Heal = this is useful for baiting the enemy into trying to kill you.
Jungle: Smite + Exhaust = good for ganking/end game fights.
Jungle: Smite + Ghost = good for chasing. Personally I wouldn't get Ghost on Lee Sin. He is a high mobility champion and it seems odd to "waste", per se, a summoner spell on improving his escaping/chasing by increasing his movement speed when he's all about ward/ally jumping.

Skilling Sequence:
R > Q > W > E

// My Opinion: All three Lee Sin players concur on this skilling order, with only slight differentiations of the first three allocations (due to different starting items).

Masteries - all three Lee Sin players suggest:
- - OFFENSE - -
3/3
4/4
1/1
3/3
1/1
- - DEFENSE - -
1/1

Optional Masteries - these runes were also suggested:
- - OFFENSE - -

- - DEFENSE - -

// My Opinion: The mastery allocation is very divided. Whilst the three agree with 21 into offense, they all spec differently, with choices of extra AD, life steal, precentage increase of damage and damage to minions. In the defense tree, passive life regen, extra armor and extra health are chosen in mismatched selections. I believe 21/09/00 is a fine set of masteries for lane or jungle Lee Sin, but I'd not choose . I would pick up 3/3 in and I would grab 3/3 in .

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Until next time, MobaFire. In the meantime, disagree/agree with my explanations? Got any comments? Surprised by the similarities? State your opinion in the comment section below :) Or nominate the next champion to compare builds for!

- jhoijhoi <3

PS: As I've done two of these comparisons in quick succession I don't think I'll be doing the Viktor one anytime soon! ^^

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(353) |

Often times when you're behind it's not because you're lacking damage o_o it's often because they burst you down isn't it? If you choose to max your E second, you're losing out on sustain and that means they can just completely push you out of your jungle if they're abusing the advantage.

(1495) |

I've never maxed W before E in the jungle. Never saw the point. Even if you're behind, how is the shield going to help when your damage is already lacking?

Plus higher E means faster clearing, which means it's easier to catch up in farm.

(353) |

Do you choose to do that when you don't snowball?

Getting more damage is optimal when fed, but when losing I don't think you should be maxing E second o_o

(1495) |

I would think your sustain would be fine as long as you hit Iron Will before Tempest. It gives a fair amount of spellvamp at level one.

(492) |

I'm guessing it also has something to do with the nerf on , especially since not all Lee's buy it anymore either.

(2057) |

Psi: Really? I've never seen you jungle Lee Sin, or play him solo top. Though I haven't really been playing with you lately ^^

I guess it's like going W or E on WW. Do you want increased movement speed when enemies are low, or a attack speed buff for auto-attacks? Perhaps it's all just personal preference ^^

(1495) |

Not really offended, but I've probably played more jungle than anything else. Mostly because everyone under 300 wins tends to completely suck at it, so I had to pick up the slack. Lee's still one of my main junglers, but I don't like playing him top.

I occasionally get a second point in W if I need more jungle sustain, but that's about it. I don't see the point of maxing it over damage + slow from . Maybe the armor and lifesteal is supposed to help out in duels or something. I don't think the reason would just be shield strength.

Obviously there's a reason for maxing W earlier, but I'm not seeing it. :/

(492) |

None taken :P

I have actually played him quite often, but I always maxed E second, never even encountered any guide or player maxing W second. I guess it's mainly since top Lee was played and people find out how ******edly strong his lifesteal on W is (though I thought people normally max it first top? o_o). Using it during ganks is normally more about the utility than the actual amount of damage shielded though. Will have to try it sometime ^^

(2057) |

^I mean absolutely NO offense, but it's probably a skill thing (not saying you're not skilled, just that those who play Lee Sin often will be skilled with him and probably play very differently than you two, who aren't primarily jungle-oriented players). More shield for when he's ganking/protecting an ally/ward jumping. Additionally, more life steal/spell vamp. While E does more damage, the utility of W is too much to ignore.

Just my (probably incorrect) assumption :P

(492) |

Nope, I max W last too.

(1495) |

Am I the only one who maxes W last in the jungle?

(2057) |

Rose: The point was to only include the top guide for each site. To compare and contrast only those top guides, which is what regular members are going to do at either site. As such, neither guide started with Cloth+pots, so I didn't list it.

Creamy: I wouldn't call one small error an entire copy paste fail, but k. If you thought I'd recreate the coding every single time, you'd be incorrect, I don't have that much time to waste.

How is 30 health better than 6 return damage to minions as they hit you? That's the equivalent damage of and combined. Whilst minions don't have a REALLY FAST auto-attack speed, any extra damage you can get in the jungle is wanted.

If you wanna know a ****ty mastery, it's . Consider that deals 6 damage outright no matter how much AD or AP you have. Havoc requires you to deal 100 damage before it deals an extra 1.5.

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Views: 3016 Build Comparisons II - Lee Sin

LOLPRO: LEE SIN - THE BLIND MONK - by Doublelift

21 / 09 / 00

R > Q > W > E

SOLOMID: Jungling the Blind Monk - by TheOddOne

21 / 09 / 00

R > Q > W > E

MOBAFIRE: Listen to their heartbeat - by JakofAllSpaydes

21 / 09 / 00

R > Q > W > E

Build Comparison - SoloMid, LoLPro and MobaFire for Lee Sin

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Views: 3016 Build Comparisons II - Lee Sin

LOLPRO: LEE SIN - THE BLIND MONK - by Doublelift

21 / 09 / 00

R > Q > W > E

SOLOMID: Jungling the Blind Monk - by TheOddOne

21 / 09 / 00

R > Q > W > E

MOBAFIRE: Listen to their heartbeat - by JakofAllSpaydes

21 / 09 / 00

R > Q > W > E

Build Comparison - SoloMid, LoLPro and MobaFire for Lee Sin

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