A penny for my thoughts* - The opinion of a reader

[quote=Latest Legend][quote=jamespongebob]I feel so flawed. Rep+ Will make edits soon. Thanks for the read.[/quote]Glad I could help! [quote=MissMaw]lol the nitpicks are great, really.[/quote]Thanks! [quote=PsiGuard]This reminds me a little of myself when I started reviewing. Good luck with your reviews and I hope you don't get too swamped with requests![/quote]Thanks! [quote=MissMaw]Read my Leona guide. I like to live dangerously.[/quote]I used to play [[leona]] a lot so I might say a bit more about the content this time around. That said, I'm still running gp5 quints so my viewpoint may be a bit outdated. Props for the lack of image abuse and the relatively small banner, except for the Masteries section. I'm not a coding wizard, but should those trees be possible using a table (and database icons) instead? Perhaps you could add [[sona]] and [[blitzcrank]] to the match-ups. You discuss [[alistar]], [[janna]] and [[thresh]] in the match-ups while you don't list them in the cheat sheet. Your style regarding linking the database seems a little inconsistent to me. I'm not sure what to say about it though. [spoiler=nitpick alert][quote]currently I am Platinum III, on my account on the EUW server, Mergoat.[/quote]Is the comma after "Platinum III" necessary? The image with the ¤ signs in it may look weird on different platforms if compared with the textual ¤ signs. This is what I see: [img]http://a.pomf.se/updczp.png[/img] Your mention of [[eclipse]] in the About Leona section isn't linked to the database. It might look a little better but I'm too lazy to scroll to the description. Three mentions of "ad carry" instead of ritos latest and greatest "marksman". Yeah I hate the new name too. [quote]You can, too, get AD marks as they are a good offensive option.[/quote]Some suggestions: "You can also", "You can get AD marks too," "Also, you can". Since you use "also" more than enough I'd go for option 2. How do you feel about scaling mres glyphs? [quote]Other options are mov speed quints cause you're slow as a turtle[/quote]You use "'cause" in the masteries section, so you might want to add a ' here too. In the masteries section you refer to [[culinary master]] as cookie. Some players might not know this mastery gives cookies. Also, it's [i]totally[/i] a biscuit. :P [quote]+ cookie for improved sustaining.[/quote]Should be "sustain" I think. [quote]spell pick at the current moment.[/quote]"at the moment" already implies "currently". [quote]You can secure more kills in lane phase[/quote]I would say "in lane" or "during lane(/laning) phase" but I'm not sure whether this is incorrect or not. You mention [[heal]] once in the Summoner Spells section. Do you mean you consider [[heal]] an alternative for [[exhaust]]? [quote]Leona's abilities have to do damage[/quote]Should this be "deal"? I'm not sure whether "do" is incorrect or not. In the Abilities section, you color the duration of [[sunlight]] but you don't color the durations of the other abilities. [quote]or until the duration of it expires.[/quote]I would say "its duration" or just leave "of it" out altogether. Just a matter of taste. [quote][[shield of daybreak]] will pop spell shield[/quote]"will pop spell shields" or "will pop a spell shield, (dealing [...])". I think [[zenith blade]] makes [[leona]] automagically auto attack the target. Might be worth mentioning as it makes it easer to land the Q. [quote]because sometimes, usually, enemies walk[/quote]"sometimes" or "usually"? [quote]If your AD can squeeze in an auto-attack all the better.[/quote]Comma after "auto-attack"? Perhaps a note in the cheat sheet on being able to max either Q or E would be nice. [quote]or sell it if you need the gold at any point after lane.[/quote]With "after lane", do you mean any time you go to base or after laning phase? Perhaps it's nice to add the [[doran's shield]] start to the cheat sheet, mentioning it's the way to go if you want to go for [[talisman of ascension]]. [quote]way of escaping or chasing on your own (you know disregarding flash or boots).[/quote]What's "you know" doing there? If you want to keep it, perhaps a comma would make it more natural. [quote]I wouldn't say it was as useful late game as Talisman[/quote]Perhaps "is" or "will be" would be better. You didn't mention [[thornmail]] in your "Rest of the items" section while you did list it in the cheat sheet. [quote]want to have complete brush control throughout lane-phase[/quote]You wrote "lane phase" earlier. [quote]all of which can be used effectively stop you right in your tracks[/quote]Missing "to" The color of the "|||" filler text in the Support Match-Ups section isn't the background color of a spoiler, so it's visible. [quote]and gives a percentege[/quote]OMG WHY DID YOU BUY TWO PAIRS OF BOOTS [quote]One, relatively popular way, of doing this[/quote]If you want to keep those commas I would place the second one after "popular". [quote]His ultimate gives him damage reduction and he becomes immune to CC.[/quote]It only lets him break free. [quote]Avoiding using your ult on him if he's level 6 and if possible try to keep him low.[/quote]Should be "Avoid".[/spoiler]Overall a good looking and comprehensible guide. Hope it helps! [s]I can't write lengthy conclusions QQ[/s] [quote=Vapora Dark]Read my Talon guide. I'll check your comment in about a week when you're finally done.[/quote]You mean the jungle guide, right? :P I'll see if I can get it done tomorrow.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=Latest Legend]You mean the jungle guide, right? :P I'll see if I can get it done tomorrow.[/quote] No, that's barely even a guide. I'm talking about this one. http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/the-new-talon-336414[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend]thatwasthejoke.png[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]well how was i supposed to know that? >:l[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend]That's where ":P" comes in. But I guess I wasn't clear. Sawry Q_Q[/quote]

[quote=Pallis123]Could you review my Taric guide? :D[/quote]

[quote=Jovy][quote=Latest Legend]I used to play [[leona]] a lot so I might say a bit more about the content this time around. That said, I'm still running gp5 quints so my viewpoint may be a bit outdated. Props for the lack of image abuse and the relatively small banner, except for the Masteries section. I'm not a coding wizard, but should those trees be possible using a table (and database icons) instead? Perhaps you could add [[sona]] and [[blitzcrank]] to the match-ups. You discuss [[alistar]], [[janna]] and [[thresh]] in the match-ups while you don't list them in the cheat sheet. Your style regarding linking the database seems a little inconsistent to me. I'm not sure what to say about it though. [spoiler=nitpick alert][quote]currently I am Platinum III, on my account on the EUW server, Mergoat.[/quote]Is the comma after "Platinum III" necessary? The image with the ¤ signs in it may look weird on different platforms if compared with the textual ¤ signs. This is what I see: [img]http://a.pomf.se/updczp.png[/img] Your mention of [[eclipse]] in the About Leona section isn't linked to the database. It might look a little better but I'm too lazy to scroll to the description. Three mentions of "ad carry" instead of ritos latest and greatest "marksman". Yeah I hate the new name too. [quote]You can, too, get AD marks as they are a good offensive option.[/quote]Some suggestions: "You can also", "You can get AD marks too," "Also, you can". Since you use "also" more than enough I'd go for option 2. How do you feel about scaling mres glyphs? [quote]Other options are mov speed quints cause you're slow as a turtle[/quote]You use "'cause" in the masteries section, so you might want to add a ' here too. In the masteries section you refer to [[culinary master]] as cookie. Some players might not know this mastery gives cookies. Also, it's [i]totally[/i] a biscuit. :P [quote]+ cookie for improved sustaining.[/quote]Should be "sustain" I think. [quote]spell pick at the current moment.[/quote]"at the moment" already implies "currently". [quote]You can secure more kills in lane phase[/quote]I would say "in lane" or "during lane(/laning) phase" but I'm not sure whether this is incorrect or not. You mention [[heal]] once in the Summoner Spells section. Do you mean you consider [[heal]] an alternative for [[exhaust]]? [quote]Leona's abilities have to do damage[/quote]Should this be "deal"? I'm not sure whether "do" is incorrect or not. In the Abilities section, you color the duration of [[sunlight]] but you don't color the durations of the other abilities. [quote]or until the duration of it expires.[/quote]I would say "its duration" or just leave "of it" out altogether. Just a matter of taste. [quote][[shield of daybreak]] will pop spell shield[/quote]"will pop spell shields" or "will pop a spell shield, (dealing [...])". I think [[zenith blade]] makes [[leona]] automagically auto attack the target. Might be worth mentioning as it makes it easer to land the Q. [quote]because sometimes, usually, enemies walk[/quote]"sometimes" or "usually"? [quote]If your AD can squeeze in an auto-attack all the better.[/quote]Comma after "auto-attack"? Perhaps a note in the cheat sheet on being able to max either Q or E would be nice. [quote]or sell it if you need the gold at any point after lane.[/quote]With "after lane", do you mean any time you go to base or after laning phase? Perhaps it's nice to add the [[doran's shield]] start to the cheat sheet, mentioning it's the way to go if you want to go for [[talisman of ascension]]. [quote]way of escaping or chasing on your own (you know disregarding flash or boots).[/quote]What's "you know" doing there? If you want to keep it, perhaps a comma would make it more natural. [quote]I wouldn't say it was as useful late game as Talisman[/quote]Perhaps "is" or "will be" would be better. You didn't mention [[thornmail]] in your "Rest of the items" section while you did list it in the cheat sheet. [quote]want to have complete brush control throughout lane-phase[/quote]You wrote "lane phase" earlier. [quote]all of which can be used effectively stop you right in your tracks[/quote]Missing "to" The color of the "|||" filler text in the Support Match-Ups section isn't the background color of a spoiler, so it's visible. [quote]and gives a percentege[/quote]OMG WHY DID YOU BUY TWO PAIRS OF BOOTS [quote]One, relatively popular way, of doing this[/quote]If you want to keep those commas I would place the second one after "popular". [quote]His ultimate gives him damage reduction and he becomes immune to CC.[/quote]It only lets him break free. [quote]Avoiding using your ult on him if he's level 6 and if possible try to keep him low.[/quote]Should be "Avoid".[/spoiler]Overall a good looking and comprehensible guide. Hope it helps! [s]I can't write lengthy conclusions QQ[/s] [/quote] Thanks, +rep! Few things, [list][*] I made the guide before tables were implemented and so I guess you could say there are a lot of things that would be better or easier with the use of them now, but I can't be bothered to get into tables now and the masteries thing, as complicated as it is, is okay now and there's not much point in killing it just so I can use tables to make it again. [*] That part of the guide was meant to just explain a few things regarding bad Leona matchups, not every matchup. Blitz is a one trick pony that's easy to beat with just about any support and Sona is the squishiest champion in the game. However, after being asked to include a variety of other champions, the chapter will probably turn out to have every single support there is regardless of how much they counter or are countered by Leona. So, stay tuned? :P [*] I wrote the guides in bits, throughout a course of a couple of months or more. There's a lot of inconsistency regarding quite a few things. AD carry and marksman*, lane phase auto attack and lane-phase auto-attack, probably even stuff like armor and armour. Same goes with the consistency with using BBCode icons and such. I like to think that the words are far enough from eachothern not to matter because going through the entire guide to fix all of these inconsistencies would be true hell. *However I think I replaced every ADC with marksman. [*] The ¤ in the image are... an image. The font in which ¤ were used is different than the font used on Mobafire. I couldn't be bothered getting into which font was what so I just went with a font that looked reasonably similar. [*] The introduction hasn't got anything linked to the database, so neither will Eclipse will be linked to it. [*] Added some information and changed up every comma issue and similar.[/list] Anyway thanks again, was very helpful. I'll be adding more match-ups and possibly a video soon. :)[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend][quote=MissMaw][quote=Latest Legend]I used to play [[leona]] a lot so I might say a bit more about the content this time around. That said, I'm still running gp5 quints so my viewpoint may be a bit outdated. Props for the lack of image abuse and the relatively small banner, except for the Masteries section. I'm not a coding wizard, but should those trees be possible using a table (and database icons) instead? Perhaps you could add [[sona]] and [[blitzcrank]] to the match-ups. You discuss [[alistar]], [[janna]] and [[thresh]] in the match-ups while you don't list them in the cheat sheet. Your style regarding linking the database seems a little inconsistent to me. I'm not sure what to say about it though. [spoiler=nitpick alert][quote]currently I am Platinum III, on my account on the EUW server, Mergoat.[/quote]Is the comma after "Platinum III" necessary? The image with the ¤ signs in it may look weird on different platforms if compared with the textual ¤ signs. This is what I see: [img]http://a.pomf.se/updczp.png[/img] Your mention of [[eclipse]] in the About Leona section isn't linked to the database. It might look a little better but I'm too lazy to scroll to the description. Three mentions of "ad carry" instead of ritos latest and greatest "marksman". Yeah I hate the new name too. [quote]You can, too, get AD marks as they are a good offensive option.[/quote]Some suggestions: "You can also", "You can get AD marks too," "Also, you can". Since you use "also" more than enough I'd go for option 2. How do you feel about scaling mres glyphs? [quote]Other options are mov speed quints cause you're slow as a turtle[/quote]You use "'cause" in the masteries section, so you might want to add a ' here too. In the masteries section you refer to [[culinary master]] as cookie. Some players might not know this mastery gives cookies. Also, it's [i]totally[/i] a biscuit. :P [quote]+ cookie for improved sustaining.[/quote]Should be "sustain" I think. [quote]spell pick at the current moment.[/quote]"at the moment" already implies "currently". [quote]You can secure more kills in lane phase[/quote]I would say "in lane" or "during lane(/laning) phase" but I'm not sure whether this is incorrect or not. You mention [[heal]] once in the Summoner Spells section. Do you mean you consider [[heal]] an alternative for [[exhaust]]? [quote]Leona's abilities have to do damage[/quote]Should this be "deal"? I'm not sure whether "do" is incorrect or not. In the Abilities section, you color the duration of [[sunlight]] but you don't color the durations of the other abilities. [quote]or until the duration of it expires.[/quote]I would say "its duration" or just leave "of it" out altogether. Just a matter of taste. [quote][[shield of daybreak]] will pop spell shield[/quote]"will pop spell shields" or "will pop a spell shield, (dealing [...])". I think [[zenith blade]] makes [[leona]] automagically auto attack the target. Might be worth mentioning as it makes it easer to land the Q. [quote]because sometimes, usually, enemies walk[/quote]"sometimes" or "usually"? [quote]If your AD can squeeze in an auto-attack all the better.[/quote]Comma after "auto-attack"? Perhaps a note in the cheat sheet on being able to max either Q or E would be nice. [quote]or sell it if you need the gold at any point after lane.[/quote]With "after lane", do you mean any time you go to base or after laning phase? Perhaps it's nice to add the [[doran's shield]] start to the cheat sheet, mentioning it's the way to go if you want to go for [[talisman of ascension]]. [quote]way of escaping or chasing on your own (you know disregarding flash or boots).[/quote]What's "you know" doing there? If you want to keep it, perhaps a comma would make it more natural. [quote]I wouldn't say it was as useful late game as Talisman[/quote]Perhaps "is" or "will be" would be better. You didn't mention [[thornmail]] in your "Rest of the items" section while you did list it in the cheat sheet. [quote]want to have complete brush control throughout lane-phase[/quote]You wrote "lane phase" earlier. [quote]all of which can be used effectively stop you right in your tracks[/quote]Missing "to" The color of the "|||" filler text in the Support Match-Ups section isn't the background color of a spoiler, so it's visible. [quote]and gives a percentege[/quote]OMG WHY DID YOU BUY TWO PAIRS OF BOOTS [quote]One, relatively popular way, of doing this[/quote]If you want to keep those commas I would place the second one after "popular". [quote]His ultimate gives him damage reduction and he becomes immune to CC.[/quote]It only lets him break free. [quote]Avoiding using your ult on him if he's level 6 and if possible try to keep him low.[/quote]Should be "Avoid".[/spoiler]Overall a good looking and comprehensible guide. Hope it helps! [s]I can't write lengthy conclusions QQ[/s] [/quote] Thanks, +rep! Few things, [list][*] I made the guide before tables were implemented and so I guess you could say there are a lot of things that would be better or easier with the use of them now, but I can't be bothered to get into tables now and the masteries thing, as complicated as it is, is okay now and there's not much point in killing it just so I can use tables to make it again. [*] That part of the guide was meant to just explain a few things regarding bad Leona matchups, not every matchup. Blitz is a one trick pony that's easy to beat with just about any support and Sona is the squishiest champion in the game. However, after being asked to include a variety of other champions, the chapter will probably turn out to have every single support there is regardless of how much they counter or are countered by Leona. So, stay tuned? :P [*] I wrote the guides in bits, throughout a course of a couple of months or more. There's a lot of inconsistency regarding quite a few things. AD carry and marksman*, lane phase auto attack and lane-phase auto-attack, probably even stuff like armor and armour. Same goes with the consistency with using BBCode icons and such. I like to think that the words are far enough from eachothern not to matter because going through the entire guide to fix all of these inconsistencies would be true hell. *However I think I replaced every ADC with marksman. [*] The ¤ in the image are... an image. The font in which ¤ were used is different than the font used on Mobafire. I couldn't be bothered getting into which font was what so I just went with a font that looked reasonably similar. [*] The introduction hasn't got anything linked to the database, so neither will Eclipse will be linked to it. [*] Added some information and changed up every comma issue and similar.[/list] Anyway thanks again, was very helpful. I'll be adding more match-ups and possibly a video soon. :)[/quote]Glad it was useful! Good luck with the video and stuff. I don't want to ignore your list but I also don't want to discuss because I think there's nothing to discuss since it's your guide so you know it better and you don't have to justify your actions or whatever you do with my input anyway. I see it the task of the guide writer to separate the wheat from the chaff. [h5]I understand your points though, and I guess I could add that the style and masteries issues were minor, even for nitpicks[/h5] Later realized my epic two pairs of boots joke was probably only clear to me. I meant the typo in "percentege"(should be percentage). There's "movemnt speed" a few words before that as well (both in [[janna]] match-up spoiler) Also I'm happy to announce I did a [[leona]] game yesterday and I won so you won't be reported! Congratulations :P[/quote]

[quote=Jovy]It's not really about justifying the stuff I did in my guide, it's rather that I want to let you know that the suggestions that I didn't implement were still okay; and I didn't implement them because of some other reason.[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend]Oh, I see. Thanks for letting me know, and sorry for jumping to conclusions. EDIT: Vapora I don't think I'll manage to finish it today after all. Well it's technically the next day already.[/quote]