Graves: Breaking the Cookie Cutters

[quote=SakuyaFM]<nv fkin mind, I'll keep this to myself>[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]If you're gonna carry then Triforce isn't really needed.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]but riven was built to have a low base ad to deter triforce in favor of more bonus ad.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Honestly for carries, 90% of the time PD is superior to TF. I'm not ruling TF out, I haven't played him yet, but I have a build in mid that should = PD superior choice. We'll see.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=SakuyaFM] [u]Masteries[/u]: 24/6/0[/quote] No. 21/0/9 is better. [quote][u]Runes[/u]: Arpen reds, HP yellows, CDR blues, AD quints[/quote] No. ArP marks HP/lvl or armor seals MR or MR/lvl or MP5/lvl glyphs AD or ArP quints [quote][u]Core[/u]: TriForce, Zerks, Wriggles [u]Item Choices[/u] Atma's Impaler (Armor, but needs 2250HP to get BF sword equivalent) Wit's End (ASpd and MR, quick stacking passive) Youmuu's Ghostblade (Cooldown and ArPen) The Bloodthirster (Generic AD item) Infinity Edge (replacement for Atma) Banshee's Veil (replacement for Wit's End)[/quote] No. NEVER plan on selling items, that's fail. Core: [[Last Whisper]], Zerk/Merc, [[Infinity Edge]]. Good items choices: [[Phantom Dancer]] Atma's Impaler+Frozen Mallet Bloodthirster Quicksilver Sash Banshee's Veil Guardian Angel [quote]As it stands, Graves has 1.2 ASpd with Trinity Force alone. Using Quickdraw ups this to 1.8. He also has 107 base AD, higher than all current AD carries, heck even higher than Riven.[/quote] ... Riven has a low base AD...[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]I think he meant a potential alternative item rather than a replacement Searz.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Isn't 107 pretty darn high?[/quote]

[quote=Searz]^It's high for an AD carry, but he doesn't have the ability to spam enough to make it all that good.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]107 base AD?? http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Graves_the_Outlaw --> Attack Damage 51 (+3.1)[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]51 + (3.1 * 18) = 106.8[/quote]