So turns out ranked first time placements have...

[quote=DirtyRatman]Title did not fit so here "SO TURNS OUT RANKED FIRST TIME PLACEMENTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW YOU PLAY THE MATCH :(" everything is taken from normal match making your placements is normal match making that will determinate your rank the moment you hit ranked button the same people that you play in normal will be placed at the same rating in the placements wich is fucking retarded system bunch of people do not know this and ruin their normal rating and ending up really awfull placements for example i did not know this so i practiced a lot becouse i wanted to hit high so i leveled to 80lvl practicing in normal mode for ranked while this happened in start i lost bunch of games and got used to all kind of different champions since its super hard to play this game if every hero is full mystery to you but since im new it kinda has to be done the learning curve. Anyway as i whos playing more i learned abaut addons and started using them then i begin to learn what the normal rating whos in my normal games sinze most people play ranked the rating shows and it whos bronze wich is not suprising since im learning the game but then i tried to try harder on the jungle role wich im interested and i actually begin to climp in normal then everyone started to be silver opponents and soon nearly everyone started to be gold i whos starting to be comfotable with the champions and jungle role and the addon even told me im around high silver so i decided to que to ranked i addon shows me exactly same shit as in normal matches the match is full of gold and silver sometimes 1 bronze i won the first match and i whos immediately placed bronze 4 wich makes no sense if the game would even try to analyze new player it did not take the all 10 matches to place me it took single ranked game and the rest of the matches whos just climping in the bronze lol i won 7/10 ranked matches and the matches where exactly same as in my normal match making so basicly the game thought i whos silver before the ranked and whatever outcome of the 1st match would place me to bronze no matter what ofc if i won 8/10 then i would be placed in silver but basicly the normal matches is your ranked placements it matters not how you perform in your rank if you don't believe me make new account and just try it get it to low rating or what rating you want check your opponents and team in normal matches and then hit ranked you will be placed 100% to the same pool as your normal matches wich is really sad since i actually trained for the ranked learning new champs learning the abilities so this is just face slap to new players saying your not allowed to practice with your main account you should practice with second becouse the normal match making rating is the decider for your rating it will be like 1 tier below your current one so if gold your silver so you feel good climping there but this system is so retarded ofc since we know nothing abaut the ranked and people only speculate how it works but this makes so much sense how else would you determinate persons rank based on 1 game IT DONT THE NORMAL GAMES is the ranked kickstarter you wont be placed into higher player pool even if you win all 10/10 games it means nothing it whos decided before you hit the que button where you are placed since the overall match making is exactly same as the normal games match making if u guys dont believe this shit try it yourself it makes no fucking sense i don't know how the system whos in the past since im new but this is how it currently is its really huge slap to the face i also noticed riot don't even have forums for league wich is one of the many things i find odd abaut this game like theres no actual solo que theres no voice chat this game lacks so much stuff and is so weird in so many ways but hey i have played other mobas so did not expect things to be this bad anyway thats my finding everyone is always saying the placements warding and kills and assist matter well not really if the normal match making is the decider also this post is only abaut new comers or new account if you already have been placed to rating i doubt normal match rank means anything in that case also fun thing i played the game like maybe 2019 litle leveled some other account to lvl 17 and then when i started playing this account around arcane i met punch of people that where trash talking like i bet your some plat player wich made me think maybe the games in start where around plat since i whos playing champ wich i litle learned on the other account couple of years ago but i did not use addons and did not even know how to check others ranks so i don't know what rating the games where but as i started the learning curve and learning the champs the rating went fast down in normal matches and that is really stupid new players should be allowed to experiment and learn new champions without ruining their ranked so basicly first time ranked is determinated by your normal matchmaking it is 100% the same shit as your normal matches you get exactly same rank people into your game as in normal matches and weather you win or lose does not matter you win more you just get placed litle higher in the shit rating why would people have to play alt account to learn game is the real question so their ranked is not messed by normal matches if your new player i recomend doing the placements immediately when you hit lvl 30 and before it just play limited champ pool since the placements don't even matter but if you train to high lvl and mess your normal rating you messed your ranked rating by doing so anyway i don't really mind getting placed to bronze but still kinda strange system towards newcomers[/quote]

[quote=Fruxo]Ranked MMR and Normal games MMR aren't the same. What is affecting you is called Ranked Seeding, which is an implemented feature back in the start of Season 11 that only affects new accounts. It'll place you in a rank for your placements which can be dependant of your other queues. If you're facing silvers in normal games or have played normal games before and then decide to play ranked, you'll likely play against silvers if the account is new. It's just another way for Riot to determine skill of newer accounts. If you don't play any games and only ranked. As long as you still win every game, you will instead be placed into what's called a Smurf Queue, which is an entirely different concept.[/quote]

[quote=Asundra][mention=Fruxo] What I dont get is that I have a plat-diamond normal mmr on a fresh account, got into ranked and went into a game with only iron-bronze teammates, who ran down. The funniest thing is that in the second game I got gold-plat mates, and actually got a high gold mmr, which is not even cloes to my normal mmr, but thank god its not bronze or iron. Still I dont get why the system put me in this weird game.[/quote]