Views: 2888 What is up with league-based elitism in matchmade games?
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(Just an unedited rant below, apologies if it doesn't make any sense, very angry atm)
So I just finished a game with possibly the most toxic
Diana player in all of League of Legends history. Whines about me not leashing blue (after I spent the entire early game keeping Xin from warding our side of the river), then refused to give red to Jinx, ever. Even smited it away from her when she already killed most of the buff. Apparently because he is Diamond I and Jinx is "only Diamond III 0 LP" she has no right to any jungle camps. Even spammed laugh during a gank and let Jinx die while she stood there and watched, because "this is why you don't farm my jungle". Seriously pissed me off, and this is not the first time I've heard people use their own *******ed league as an insult just because someone else is in a lower division. What's worse is when someone duo-queues with a friend: apparently if you are the lower ranked player in duo queue, you don't deserve your rank, you should feel bad, and you will inevitably throw the game, and all these things can apparently be judged without even seeing the person play for one second. What does rank have to do with anything? I don't understand why people feel the need to trash players constantly throughout a game even when they aren't doing poorly. They're on your team, stop talking down on them. Does nothing to help you win the game and just makes it un-fun for everybody involved. Heck I've been carried by a Gold II Vayne before, completely outplayed his lane opponent who is up two leagues; don't diss before you see them play. Actually, just don't diss at all. Accomplishes nothing and makes you look like an ***hat.
So I just finished a game with possibly the most toxic
Diana player in all of League of Legends history. Whines about me not leashing blue (after I spent the entire early game keeping Xin from warding our side of the river), then refused to give red to Jinx, ever. Even smited it away from her when she already killed most of the buff. Apparently because he is Diamond I and Jinx is "only Diamond III 0 LP" she has no right to any jungle camps. Even spammed laugh during a gank and let Jinx die while she stood there and watched, because "this is why you don't farm my jungle". Seriously pissed me off, and this is not the first time I've heard people use their own *******ed league as an insult just because someone else is in a lower division. What's worse is when someone duo-queues with a friend: apparently if you are the lower ranked player in duo queue, you don't deserve your rank, you should feel bad, and you will inevitably throw the game, and all these things can apparently be judged without even seeing the person play for one second. What does rank have to do with anything? I don't understand why people feel the need to trash players constantly throughout a game even when they aren't doing poorly. They're on your team, stop talking down on them. Does nothing to help you win the game and just makes it un-fun for everybody involved. Heck I've been carried by a Gold II Vayne before, completely outplayed his lane opponent who is up two leagues; don't diss before you see them play. Actually, just don't diss at all. Accomplishes nothing and makes you look like an ***hat.
Anyways, it is not right to discriminate races. I always report racists in game who offend other people for their nationality/religion(that has happened too).
In addition, toxicity and related issues are actually problems in about 80% of LoL players. So actually, I think you'll find that the 'toxic Polish players' are actually in the norm.
And now you give the 'feed the troll' excuse? You could have just apologised or just stopped posting, but what you are going to do instead is deflect the wrongness of your racism onto everyone else? You're going to blame everyone else for your extremely apparent racism?
We are trying to tell you that you are being racist and that you need to have some more ****ing tact when posting. And you're not trolling anyone. You are just genuinely being racist and then trying make it look like you did nothing wrong.
The short version of what I'm trying to say is - think about what you're saying before you say it. I have a lot of racial prejudice as well, but I know better than to let my emotions cloud my judgement. If you don't mean to offend anyone, take a step back and look at your post to see if it looks like anyone can be offended. Apologise for offending people and clarify what you meant, if you did not mean offence. This is the proper response to be made from a mature person. Only the immature person creates excuses and tries to blame other people for errors they have so clearly made.
You want freedom of expression? Sure, you're on the internet, why not? Funny thing is, we have it too. So when you say something, we can as well. Go on, be racist. See how well the world reacts to that. You're actually lucky that moderators can remove your comments for you. They can save you from yourself.
Edit: Incidentally, I've had a **** 3-4 weeks and I think I'm on the verge of breaking down (I am in no way making what you are going through seem light). So I can at least sympathize with your frustration. But even so, I know it would only frustrate me more if I let my emotions get the better of me. All things have an appropriate outlet. Perhaps you just need to find one.
Also, wtf is this?
So Polish people aren't normal people? They only deserve respect if they act like 'normal' human beings?
Don't know why I bothered with a post, tbh. I'm just going to report it anyway.
So now you go for the "play with the words" game? I didn't expect you to fall for this one, mate :(
Ok, so how else should I put that down? Would it be more appropriate, if I rephrased it and said: "If they start acted like normal players" ? Would that be OK with you? I think it will be the same. By normal people I meant normal players, who just play as good as they can, don't try to ruin the game on purpose, if they do bad they don't get toxic and stuf, and anyone not playing like this, is a troll (so.. "not normal" in my so much racist words)... omg I'm sure you got it at the first time. You just jumped on the "lynch the racist" bandwaggon. And now as I think of it - why did you all feed the troll?
This is my last post, since I don't like to fight you and it is pointless - I'm sorry if I offended any member of this community, didn't mean to. I had a **** week, followed by ****tier weekend and ended up with the ****tiest Sunday, so maybe it was not a good idea to check the internet and replying to any hot topic.. but I am not going to dismiss what I said, because I am not "that guy" who would run away just because I said something not as nice as you would like it to. I'm going offline to cool down and have some beer. And I am not going to check the replies, I just.. I don't know. Not the right time.
Sure, report me, I have no problem with that. If you think I am no good and has nothing to offer, there is no reason for me to be around and maybe I deserve to be deleted or whatever you people do with us, racist lowlife wrongdoers. But at least I stood my ground. So just PM me if I should get the fcuk out of here and I will. Promise.
So much about the freedom of speech I guess...
And whilst you can't help what Polish people may have done to you in your life, you can have some bloody tact and choose the correct and mature time to express your dislike of them instead of deciding it was a great idea to be racist (and then by the ******** dodging excuse of what a 'race' is to try to avoid being racist).
Okay, sure, granted that Polish players may or may not be bad. It doesn't suddenly give you leave to be a **** about them nor to them, as you have so clearly been doing in this thread.
And before you decide to badmouth me about making snap judgements because I've never played with a raging Polish player, I actually have.
Also, wtf is this?
So Polish people aren't normal people? They only deserve respect if they act like 'normal' human beings?
tl;dr Others being an ***hat does not mean it's okay for you to behave like an ***hat as well. Toxicity is only a problem when you're affected by it.
Don't know why I bothered with a post, tbh. I'm just going to report it anyway.
First of all, "polish" is not a race, so technically I am not racist.
Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation.
Seems that any peoples of a distinct nationality could easily fall under this term...
Second, whatever. You all miss the point all the time, but I have no power to explain this, as I can't put it in any other, simpler, or more accurate words. So I stop arguing now.
Third, I was constantly treated badly by polish people in game and IRL in past year, that nowadays it reflects my opinions about them so I am sorry, can't help it.
Fourth - even good Polish players agree, that lots of their own players are toxic above the limit.
But while I changed my in-game behaviour (I never say anything about them being polish, never blame them in chat, if they feed I say "np just farm it up, play def", "stop arguing guys"..., never judge them before we play the game or before they talk to me, or whatever), they don't change. Funny thing is I am the bad one in here :D
I guess it is easy to judge, if you are looking at it from ooutside.
Peace and sunshine guys, still love you all no matter what shiet you talk to me. :)
I believe that people are fundamentally the same no matter where they're from and just because you had bad experiences with a certain group it doesn't give you the right to throw out such generalized offensive statements. If you won't change your attitude then please at least keep it to yourself in the future.
For the record, I played on EU prior to the server split and never had issues with any one nationality in particular. In fact one of the best friends I had in my early days of League happened to be Polish.
Seriously, I've been matched with plat players (currently gold III) and they throw out comments like "Gold thrash, gtfo out of my lane" after you do a perfect counter gank and acquire 2 kills :C I honestly hope these people get a bit down to earth or simply get banned away from the game ~.~
As for the duo Q thing, I haven't experienced it cause I always duo Q with a friend whose rank is just 1 division higher/lower than me so the division gap between players is nearly nonexistent.
It's racist when you openly discriminate against a group of players. It doesn't matter if you concede that "only a majority of them are." You're being racist by coining negative attitudes to races.
This is racist again. Don't place judgements by ethnicities.
I don't see how that is racist. It is a fact. Like if you say "monkeys eat bananas". Is that racist to the monkeys? I don't think so. But ask anyone on EUNE what do they think about polish players and if they want a polish server to be created. In 95% you get big YES.
I just stated the facts. Are they racist? Ok, then I am racist. Problem?
I'm sure you say this shiet only because you never played with them. I know your kind - you are full of anti-racism, have to love everybody, save the poor, save the weak and stuff... but it is just because you never met any of those you are concerned about. It is easy to say I am racist, if you play on NA. Come to EUNE, spend 2 weeks in here and I would love to hear your opinion about polish players :)
I think you just want to show how little I am but it doesn't work like this with me, sorry to dissapoint you. I stand my ground about polish players, and I am ready to donate money for creating polish-only server. If they start acted like normal people, I will have no need to blame and dislike them. Easy. When I started to play, I had no problem with polish players. After they ruined so many games for me (toxicity, trolling, flaming, KSing, feeding... and in 90% they were polish) - well, I had no other option.
Next time, don't engage in conversation about which you know squatt ;)
pls no racism ;_;
And it's not like she was bad at the game, pretty much single-handedly carried (although taking every single buff and farming all the lanes probably contributed). Good performance doesn't make it any more right to talk down to other players.
But you can't deny the fact, most of them have the attitude of LCS winners, while their skills are somewhere near Wood 5. Sad, but true.
This is racist again. Don't place judgements by ethnicities.