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Does tenacity stack?

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ya I imagine there's some weird math invovled with champions who have built in tenacity, Irelia and Dr. Mundo to be precise
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Yeah, I think that was what I was talking about.


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Ima try to make this as most complicated it can get.

It doesn't stack, 1 tenacity = 1% cc reduction.
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theBMB wrote:

ya I imagine there's some weird math invovled with champions who have built in tenacity, Irelia and Dr. Mundo to be precise

Tenacity stacks multiplicatively with CC reduction from champion abilities such as Ionian Fervor, Heart Zapper, or Insanity Potion. It does not stack with other Tenacity sources.
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Tenacity does stack with Ionian Fervor, Heart Zapper, Insanity Potion, and Cleanse.

However, it stacks multiplicatively. So it's not a flat 35 + 30 or something like that.
The effect is slightly reduced the same way Magic Penetration ends up with 49% if you combine Archaic Knowledge and Void Staff


If the math is exactly the same, you just take the lower value and multiply it by the other half of 100% that the higher value is subtracted from.

i.e.: Ionian Fervor - 40 tenacity w/ 3 targets. (0.4)

Mercury's Treads - 35 tenacity (0.3)

1.0 - 0.4 = 0.6

0.6 x 0.35 = 0.21

0.21 + 0.4 = 0.61 -> Therefore, you'd have 61 Tenacity as Irelia while fighting 3 or more champions.
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An Irelia with Cleanse buff and Mercury Treads would have a 94% reduced CC time.
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Temz: scary! Especially since she just used Cleanse to get out of the first :P
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What kind of stupid Irelia would take Cleanse into a game when she already possesses Tenacity?


Also, I do not know how Tenacity stacking interacts when it comes to 3 sources.

My math only supports scenarios where there are 2 sources.
My guess with 3 is that the lowest Tenacity source would be negated. So Irelia vs 3 enemies + Mercury's Treads and Cleanse would end up having only 79 Tenacity for Cleanse's 3 second duration or when the enemy numbers drop below 3 (which ever comes first).
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JunSupport wrote:

What kind of stupid Irelia would take Cleanse into a game when she already possesses Tenacity?


Also, I do not know how Tenacity stacking interacts when it comes to 3 sources.

My math only supports scenarios where there are 2 sources.
My guess with 3 is that the lowest Tenacity source would be negated. So Irelia vs 3 enemies + Mercury's Treads and Cleanse would end up having only 79 Tenacity for Cleanse's 3 second duration or when the enemy numbers drop below 3 (which ever comes first).


If we assume they still multiply.

Cleanse is 65% reduction.
Passive is 40% reduction.
Mercs are 35% reduction.

So>>> (100*.35*.6*.65) = 13.65 aka 100-13.65 = 86.35% CC reduction.

The other Irelia example can be worked this way as well:

Merc Treads + passive

100*0.65*0.6 = 39

100- 39 = 61% reduction in CC

Where the 100 just represents the max percent of CC you take, and the 39 is the amount you'll be taking with your 61% reduction.
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Tenacity of items doesn't stack and the system will take the highest tenacity value.
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