th3BlackAngel wrote:
Yeah, I think that was what I was talking about.
It's always good to know what you're talking about ;)
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Ima try to make this as most complicated it can get.
It doesn't stack, 1 tenacity = 1% cc reduction.
It doesn't stack, 1 tenacity = 1% cc reduction.
theBMB wrote:
Tenacity stacks multiplicatively with CC reduction from champion abilities such as








Tenacity does stack with
Ionian Fervor,
Heart Zapper,
Insanity Potion, and
Cleanse.
However, it stacks multiplicatively. So it's not a flat 35 + 30 or something like that.
The effect is slightly reduced the same way Magic Penetration ends up with 49% if you combine
Archaic Knowledge
and
Void Staff
If the math is exactly the same, you just take the lower value and multiply it by the other half of 100% that the higher value is subtracted from.
i.e.: Ionian Fervor - 40 tenacity w/ 3 targets. (0.4)
Mercury's Treads - 35 tenacity (0.3)
1.0 - 0.4 = 0.6
0.6 x 0.35 = 0.21
0.21 + 0.4 = 0.61 -> Therefore, you'd have 61 Tenacity as
Irelia while fighting 3 or more champions.




However, it stacks multiplicatively. So it's not a flat 35 + 30 or something like that.
The effect is slightly reduced the same way Magic Penetration ends up with 49% if you combine


If the math is exactly the same, you just take the lower value and multiply it by the other half of 100% that the higher value is subtracted from.
i.e.: Ionian Fervor - 40 tenacity w/ 3 targets. (0.4)
Mercury's Treads - 35 tenacity (0.3)
1.0 - 0.4 = 0.6
0.6 x 0.35 = 0.21
0.21 + 0.4 = 0.61 -> Therefore, you'd have 61 Tenacity as

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Temz: scary! Especially since she just used Cleanse to get out of the first :P
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What kind of stupid Irelia would take
Cleanse into a game when she already possesses Tenacity?
Also, I do not know how Tenacity stacking interacts when it comes to 3 sources.
My math only supports scenarios where there are 2 sources.
My guess with 3 is that the lowest Tenacity source would be negated. So Irelia vs 3 enemies + Mercury's Treads and Cleanse would end up having only 79 Tenacity for Cleanse's 3 second duration or when the enemy numbers drop below 3 (which ever comes first).

Also, I do not know how Tenacity stacking interacts when it comes to 3 sources.
My math only supports scenarios where there are 2 sources.
My guess with 3 is that the lowest Tenacity source would be negated. So Irelia vs 3 enemies + Mercury's Treads and Cleanse would end up having only 79 Tenacity for Cleanse's 3 second duration or when the enemy numbers drop below 3 (which ever comes first).
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JunSupport wrote:
What kind of stupid Irelia would take

Also, I do not know how Tenacity stacking interacts when it comes to 3 sources.
My math only supports scenarios where there are 2 sources.
My guess with 3 is that the lowest Tenacity source would be negated. So Irelia vs 3 enemies + Mercury's Treads and Cleanse would end up having only 79 Tenacity for Cleanse's 3 second duration or when the enemy numbers drop below 3 (which ever comes first).
If we assume they still multiply.
Cleanse is 65% reduction.
Passive is 40% reduction.
Mercs are 35% reduction.
So>>> (100*.35*.6*.65) = 13.65 aka 100-13.65 = 86.35% CC reduction.
The other Irelia example can be worked this way as well:
Merc Treads + passive
100*0.65*0.6 = 39
100- 39 = 61% reduction in CC
Where the 100 just represents the max percent of CC you take, and the 39 is the amount you'll be taking with your 61% reduction.
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