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i tried couple of evelynn builds, and this is by far the best, even after the nerf with this build, she is still one of a kind..
i cant critism u by anything but i do agree.
ty alot for a fancy time with evelynn! :)
+1
The armor argument, however, is much more sound. Nonetheless, if you're playing Eve, most tanks will start stacking FoN instead of Thornmail because they're anticipating an AP assassin, hence the argument goes the other way as well.
Also, the advantage of AD Eve is her versatility and sustainability. AP Eve needs to kill to regen hp. AD Eve can push, kill, and jungle without ever having to return to base due to lifesteal. Also, that allows her to effectively 1v3 (figuratively) since her lifesteal constantly regens her hp instead of having to rely on kills. This prevents those deaths where you knew you could have snagged that double kill but died instead due to getting killed half a second too early.
And no, hate spike doesn't hit harder than that (calculated), it's just that you're spamming it so much that the guy's hp just goes down like flowing water. I still haven't found a strong argument for AP Eve>AD Eve yet, but I appreciate all the comments in response to mine.
First of all, I love your guide. I tried out the build and it works really well.
However, I disagree that AD eve has too little damage to be an assassin. On the contrary, late game AD eve can out-damage AP eve by a large amount.
This is the theory craft involved from my guide (I won't post the link since it's apparently not allowed):
AP Evelynn with (1 sorcerer's boots and 5 deathcaps):
AP: 1327.5
Ravage damage: 1647
Spike damage: 456.7
Total damage for 5 seconds: 1647+6x456.7= 2740.2
AD Evelynn with (2 fully buffed bloodthirsters, IE, PD, Stark's, and Zerker's):
Hits per second (with ulti): 2.5
Damage per hit: 379.1
Damage per second: 947.75
Damage per second with crits (50% chance, 250% damage) modifier: 1658.5625
Damage for 5 seconds: 8292.8125
As for the cost of the full build in my guide, it's only about 1.5k gold more than the full build in your guide (15315g vs 16845g).
No hate intended, just trying to challenge some views :D
Get rid of two Rabadon's and add a Lich Bane and Mejai's Fully stacked, you can one combo almost anyone without any available time to be cc'd.
To respond to Cerulean Flame, yes AD Evelynn can do a lot with AD, but I find it can go south if the enemy has a well built tank. These tanks usually have obscene ammounts of armor and negate much of Eve's physical damage. I find many tanks stack normal armor more than magical armor, which makes for a pain. I think Eve can be built as a burst or slightly slower, the latter doing more. And hate spike does more than just 456 per hit endgame, you aren't factoring in she does half to another enemy, and like I said she hits harder than that. I'd say 570-600.
To respond to Cerulean Flame, yes AD Evelynn can do a lot with AD, but I find it can go south if the enemy has a well built tank. These tanks usually have obscene ammounts of armor and negate much of Eve's physical damage. I find many tanks stack normal armor more than magical armor, which makes for a pain. I think Eve can be built as a burst or slightly slower, the latter doing more. And hate spike does more than just 456 per hit endgame, you aren't factoring in she does half to another enemy, and like I said she hits harder than that. I'd say 570-600.
However, I disagree that AD eve has too little damage to be an assassin. On the contrary, late game AD eve can out-damage AP eve by a large amount.
This is the theory craft involved from my guide (I won't post the link since it's apparently not allowed):
AP Evelynn with (1 sorcerer's boots and 5 deathcaps):
AP: 1327.5
Ravage damage: 1647
Spike damage: 456.7
Total damage for 5 seconds: 1647+6x456.7= 2740.2
AD Evelynn with (2 fully buffed bloodthirsters, IE, PD, Stark's, and Zerker's):
Hits per second (with ulti): 2.5
Damage per hit: 379.1
Damage per second: 947.75
Damage per second with crits (50% chance, 250% damage) modifier: 1658.5625
Damage for 5 seconds: 8292.8125
As for the cost of the full build in my guide, it's only about 1.5k gold more than the full build in your guide (15315g vs 16845g).
No hate intended, just trying to challenge some views :D
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