I'd think that the second early point in fling is kinda not needed... You get an extra 50 dmg, which just cannot compare with getting the slow with MegaAdhesive. Even if you have extra movement speed, it's still better to get the slow early for CC on them. Great guide otherwise, though maybe getting a catalyst earlier would be better? I'd think that getting the RoA earlier than Archangel's (Get Tear of goddess early, then RoA then yea) would prob be better because of the extra health and level-up bonus.

lol dude u kidding?
his singed guide is the top rated right now.

The whole point of me saying that about Archangels was that it is impossible to get full (or at least even half) of the stacks in a normal game. In superoptimal conditions (very early buy, constant stacking) it took all that time for it to be fully effective.

Also, i have been playing Singed for about 2 years now. Yes, i have tried the archangels route, and it doesn't work.

Singed needs to be on the front lines, since his fling is in melee range, and he also has to spread his poison all over the enemy team. Unless you have tankyness, the AD carry will rip you to shreds instantly.


AP Singed works. I have played full AP singed countless times, and i have gotten my only pentakill with him. But you still build tanky with resists, meaning RoA, Rylai's, Abyssal (sick synergy overall with him), Rabadons, and Zhonyas.
However, Archangel's Singed does not work.

I gave a downvote to the guide because i sincerely believe it is a bad guide, and, as i have said before, i have already tried such builds before with little to no success.

nice build. I try it just now and, though i prefer take rod of ages a little before, i find it good. AMAZING the damage that poison trail can do with this build. Singed is very fun to play when that damn poison make all that damage :P

I agree with Varadis when he said that Archangel's staff is hardly to stack with Singed. That because Poison trail doesn't stack, so, Anastasios, if you can reach the full stack in so few time ( and not in a custom -.-" ), without run out the mana every 10 seconds, just prove it to me. And please, don't give a bad rating just after i publish the guide because this is the proof that you does not try the build.
I ask you please to try this build and then give a bad rating: it would be more correct.

About the message of Varadis, some times i take rod of ages before too, but only when there are annoying enemies that makes a lot of damage. I am glad that you like the build, so thank! :)

Anastasios, you never play Singed, isn't it?
I tried this build and i find it very good. With Singed, the unique passive of Archangel's staff is almost impossible to stack, because Poison Trail doesn't increase it.
Moreover, when you try to fling an enemy, you will not be instagibbed, especially with more than 3500 Hp. Yes, with this build Singed is not a tank, but a full Ap champ with a lot of life. Personally i had a lot of fun trying this build, because i could play very aggressive.
Honestly, i prefer take Rod of Ages in the mid game and not in late, because i prefer, in mid game, life than AP. However, nice build.

Archangels takes over 30 minutes to stack, tested on a custom game with bots that i massacred to buy it as fast as possible, and with spamming every ability the moment it was off cd.

Your build also has absolutely no resistances. The moment you try to get close for a fling, you will be instagibbed. Sure, you might get some kills now and then, but it's not worth it.
Also RoA is taken way, WAY too late to reach its full potential.