Fast Gold Build

[quote=Jet]if you're good at last hitting, why are you taking gold items on a champion that doesn't benefit from them as much (they don't turn into ANY of your items, you sell them)? and no, 1600 gold for 1 gold/second to get a "faster bloodthrister" is wrong. you just spent ALMOST a bfsword so you could farm easier you could just buy the BF sword and do better in lane[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]Ok so what item do you suggest going for before this BF sword so that you can actually even stay in the lane with enough mana and health to last hit?[/quote]

[quote=Jet]playing better if you need to buy items to increase your survivability in lane as sivir, you're either pushing way too hard or you're really careless sivir is one of the only carries who doesn't need dorans blades because she's so safe to farm with[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]How is she so safe to farm with when her range is shorter than almost any other ranged character, if not every other ranged character. They do not even have to use their abilities to harass you, they can simply basic attack and then run back and you cannot even touch them with your basic attack. You still haven't suggested any other options. What would you suggest as a first option?[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]You also don't even need to be good at last hitting with Sivir, since she's so good at farming with her BB and Ricochet.[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]Well for her to be good at farming with BB and Ricochet, you need to have some sort of solid mana regen. And if you rely on BB and Ricochet to farm, then you are pushing very close to their tower and leaving yourself wide open to their jungler ganking you.[/quote]

[quote=Lazukin][quote=Svingas] How is she so safe to farm with when her range is shorter than almost any other ranged character, if not every other ranged character. They do not even have to use their abilities to harass you, they can simply basic attack and then run back and you cannot even touch them with your basic attack. You still haven't suggested any other options. What would you suggest as a first option? [/quote] I've played a lot of [[Sivir]] as mid (or top solo when available) for farming, and have only once had a problem farming, and that was against [[LeBlanc]]. Level Q W W E W R W Q W. Once your ricochet is maxed, do whatever, but ricochet allows for incredible farming, almost as much, if not [b]as[/b] much gold as [[Gangplank]]. EDIT: Don't even use your Q after level 2, just farm. You won't run out of mana if you just farm for a while. Q is for later when it actually does damage, and for the very beginning to keep the enemy away in very situational circumstances when they get too close.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]spell shield negates ability harass and heals mana she has 20% natural dodge when moving to avoid physical harass she has BB for killing the caster minions, massive range on it. she has ricochet for pushing, mass farming or taking out more than one low health minion in one AA.[/quote]

[quote=Svingas][quote=Lazukin] I've played a lot of [[Sivir]] as mid (or top solo when available) for farming, and have only once had a problem farming, and that was against [[LeBlanc]]. Level Q W W E W R W Q W. Once your ricochet is maxed, do whatever, but ricochet allows for incredible farming, almost as much, if not [b]as[/b] much gold as [[Gangplank]]. [/quote] I do not feel like anyone is listening to my reasoning for not wanting to farm in this way. Yes you will get most of the last hits with Boomerang Blade and Ricochet bouncing all over the place, but at the same time you will be standing right by their turret as they wait for the lovely (insert possible jungler here) to come out of the jungle and kill you before you can make it back to your turret.[/quote]

[quote=Jet]if you're at their turret constantly, you're not last hitting you can also ward and farm close to turret[/quote]