Did anyone else know....

[quote=RCIX]That when mana-recovery-over-time effects were converted over to being Mp5 bonuses, that Chalice and the dominion mana aura affects them now? So it was sort of a stealth buff to mana pots on dominion and when you have a chalice. Nothing large, but it helps... I can't think of anything else that recovers mana over time though other than blue buff, and IIRC it already was affected :X If it wasn't though, maybe chalice is more viable now?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]IIRC, they were always [i]classified[/i] as that in the game's mechanics but they only [i]showed[/i] them as that recently. Also, Blue buff's "1% of your max mana per second" has always been MP5. It was just 5% of your MP as MP5 instead with 25 flat. That's why Veigar+Chalice+Blue buff never runs out of mana. Ever.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]but chalice is pretty worthless. the problem with veigars passive is that you have to build more mp5 for it to work really well, which is why i usually rush a codex on him.[/quote]

[quote=RCIX]I never understood why everyone hated chalice. Is it because of the "lol nob just manage ur mana" aspect? Especially since blue buff was nerfed now, I would think people might pick it up as a way to sustain mana costs and as an early item in lane to fight other casters.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]IMO it's not worth it on any champion save for maybe Galieo. Overall you need a champ capable of spamming skills so that your mana is consistently low or at least below 50%. Not many champs accomplish that level of spammability.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]well yeah ill buy it on galio, but also what jeffy said. its also a kind of manage your mana thing.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]What about [[orianna]]? I run out of mana with RoA AND Blue buff Q_Q[/quote]

[quote=RCIX]I buy it on her too, since she's the Hummer of mana users :P Being spammy and low on mana is like in her job description.[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]It is quite good on Sona. Spamm that heal and q all day[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice][quote=tehAsian] What about [[orianna]]? I run out of mana with RoA AND Blue buff Q_Q [/quote] then you are doing something wrong[/quote]