What's a good beginner/intermediate ADC...

[quote=Embracing][[graves]] has the lowest skill ceiling out of all the ADCs but also has the highest skill floor. He's extremely potent. 100% Graves. He fits the meta perfectly and he's extremely strong in it as well. He's strong in lane, has an extremely strong mid game, and has a decent late game. Learning [[graves]] will teach you all the basics of ADCs, and he also scales with your skill as well. One could learn and play only graves from lvl 1 to challenger. [[Tristana]] also works well if you want a scaling AD because she has a simple kit and does better as the game progresses. I'd argue against champions like [[ezreal]], [[vayne]],[[kalista]], and [[jinx]] if you're actually looking to improve at the game. These champions have too complicated of a skillset to utilize efficiently while learning the game.[/quote]

[quote=Stylistical]Bleh I hate ADC. I cordially invite(beg) you to come to my home in the top lane or jungle :D However, I do play ADC sometimes, and I've found that [[Jinx]] and [[Lucian]] are both very strong and very easy to pick up. Both are free this week, so you can try them out and see for yourself :D I'm no ADC god, but I have at least a decent understanding of the role, and so I made a list of the ADCs in order of ease, and a second one in order of potentness (That's not a word). [SPOILER=Lists][b]In order from easiest to hardest...[/b] (These might not be perfectly correct, so you should probably listen to some ADC main rather than me, but ya know. w/e) [[Graves]] [[Tristana]] [[Ashe]] [[Caitlyn]] [[Jinx]] [[Corki]] [[Sivir]] [[Lucian]] [[Varus]] [[Twitch]] [[Kog'Maw]] [[Miss Fortune]] [[Urgot]] (If you even consider him an ADC at this point) [[Kalista]] [[Quinn]] [[Vayne]] [[Ezreal]] [[Draven]] (Last 3 are relatively even. [[Vayne]] requires great attention to positions, [[Ezreal]] has 4 skill shot abilities, all of which are decently hard to hit, and [[Draven]] requires you to catch axes, so you have to move after every attack and catch them, or your damage drops off significantly.) ([[Urgot]] is arguably an ADC. He's listed as a Marksman, but he's played Top and Mid more than ADC.) ([[Gnar]], [[Kennen]], [[Azir]], and [[Jayce]] are also listed as Marksman, but trust me, they aren't ADCs. [[Jayce]] maybe can be, but not all that well. [[Azir]] is really just not a Marksman in my eyes at all, and neither are [[Gnar]] or [[Kennen]].) [b]In order of potentness...[/b] (Again, might not be correct, but I like making lists, so yeah.) [[Graves]] [[Jinx]] [[Draven]] [[Vayne]] [[Twitch]] [[Tristana]] [[Lucian]] [[Kalista]] [[Corki]] [[Ezreal]] (Ezfire Pulsereal (Hopefully someone will understand that, and I won't have to explain it)) [[Urgot]] [[Caitlyn]] [[Lucian]] [[Sivir]] [[Varus]] [[Kog'Maw]] [[Miss Fortune]] [[Quinn]] [[Ashe]][/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]People who are not caitlyn players think she is easy to play, but the skillgap between a really good caitlyn and an average caitlyn player is actually astronomical. The floor and the ceiling for cailtyn is much bigger than an ADC like tristana or graves. Miss Fortune is pretty easy and a strong lane bully, but she sucks at a lot of thigns right now. I'd probably pick up corki. He's a dumb champ, but he's pretty good atleast half the time[/quote]

[quote=Slappiz][[Miss Fortune]], highly underrated ADC. [color=#00ff00]Pros:[/color] One of the strongest ADC in lane. Good mid and late game. Easy to learn. Great burst. Guns.. Fun to play! Her passive makes it a lot easier to juke spells and rotate between lanes. [color=#ff0000]Cons:[/color] Can easily be locked down because of no escapes (forces you to learn adc positioning) Low mobility when your passive is down. Assassins will focus you. I played her on my smurf account from Gold V-Plat V last season and tbh I think I won my lane every time.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]Well you'd be better off learning ADC on strong ADC's, because you're not gonna learn anything by getting stomped on low-mid tier ADC's. Graves is both one of the strongest AD carries in the game right now, and also arguably the easiest high tier ADC, so he's probably the best ADC to start off with. Caitlyn [b]isn't[/b] a good starter ADC, she's strong once you actually have good ADC mechanics, she's not so effective on players who don't know what they're doing. Lucian is probably another easy but strong AD carry. Generally, what you should look for in ADC's as a beginner is champions with in-built mobility, and plenty of damage through spells.[/quote]

[quote=Blian]what is the acceptable cs in 10 mins on beginner/intermediate level btw? 75-100?[/quote]

[quote=UnstoppableBacon]Sivir is a great ADC if you are very aggressive with her. If you tend to die a lot she can be a pain though. I agree that Graves is really strong and he has all the tools you need to get good and win games.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Blian]what is the acceptable cs in 10 mins on beginner/intermediate level btw? 75-100?[/quote] 100 cs at 10 is practically perfect but it's realistically only achievable consistently for great players in organized play. In a real game where you often have to contend with harass, all-ins and ganks screwing you over if you're getting 80 cs at 10 minutes then you're doing pretty well - even at challenger level solo queue ADCs don't usually get much more than that. For a beginner 70 is a fine target. Also I'd go with [[graves]] but there's a lot of decent options if you don't like him.[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu][quote=Vapora Dark]Well you'd be better off learning ADC on strong ADC's, because you're not gonna learn anything by getting stomped on low-mid tier ADC's. Graves is both one of the strongest AD carries in the game right now, and also arguably the easiest high tier ADC, so he's probably the best ADC to start off with. Caitlyn [b]isn't[/b] a good starter ADC, she's strong once you actually have good ADC mechanics, she's not so effective on players who don't know what they're doing. Lucian is probably another easy but strong AD carry. Generally, what you should look for in ADC's as a beginner is champions with in-built mobility, and plenty of damage through spells.[/quote] [[graves]] has low skill floor but high skill cap. He can be one of the easiest but also one of the hardest to actually play to his full potential. [[lucian]] is quite hard atm. He is a spell-ADC (like [[ezreal]]) and deals mediocre damage if you don't use them effectively. Playing him requires attention to combos and bursts. [[graves]] is pretty simple with [[ezreal]] (as long as you manage to hit skillshots). [[tristana]] can be rather easy to play since she isn't really that complicated (only the usage of R and W need actual thinking).[/quote]