AP mid, counters and stuff

[quote=grizzfang]i like to go AP mid, especially with lux and malzahar and i was wondering who i counter with them and who they're countered with? and also what to buy against the champs i don't counter with these two[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian][[lux]] has slow skillshots > start [[boots of speed]] [[malzahar]] has no harass > stay away from minions, when he E's something walk in and do something to him, he can't do anything about it. At 6, get a gank with hard CC to stop his ult and stuff.[/quote]

[quote=grizzfang]not rly the answer i was looking for, i want to know which champs i counter with them, and which counter lux and malzahar[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Doesn't matter what champs. Both those champions can be countered by playing a certain way. Counterpicking isn't the solution to everything. But if you really want to know... [[galio]] counters BOTH of them because he's pretty much anti-caster [[kassadin]] is anti-caster as well, and he's free this week. But he can get bullied pre-6. [[cassiopeia]] is strong, because none of them have movement abilities and you can just QEEE them and they die. and there are a lot more.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn]They are nice mages, but they dont really counter other champions, they are just mages Countering them is kinda easy, especially Lux that is easier to kill. Talon, Akali, Kassadin, and other burst assassins can do the job[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=tehAsian] [[lux]] has slow skillshots > start [[boots of speed]] [/quote] Always start boots mid regardless of who you're against.[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]Kassadin counters every caster due to his silence. LeBlanc is a fine choice if you're looking for 1 target shutdown champion.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=Luther3000] [quote=tehAsian] [[lux]] has slow skillshots > start [[boots of speed]] [/quote] Always start boots mid regardless of who you're against. [/quote] Totally true, I laugh a lot when I get Vlad with boots and see the enemy with a dorans item. They just cant hit me[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]In few situations will I start boots+pots. I think it just might be preference but, only vs skillshots will I take boots+pots. I'd prefer to take some offence item on an energy caster instead of boot+pots if I could help it.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]You need the sustain. It's too risky to start without pots. I think the only offensive item you can buy and still afford pots is [[Amplifying Tome]], and you only get one pot. Yeah, no. Not worth it.[/quote]