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Offense support:

Defense Support:

^^Based on this concept I'd like to categorize the supportive champions (tanks, supports, and the like) into their respective categories (offense supporter/defense supporter).

So far I have:

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Examples of offense supporters

: has high damage output and good CC . Also has a lot of spell range. Her prismatic shield scales with her AP, so high AP makes her better at supporting.

: has high damage output and good CC. Her Black Shield also scales off her AP, so again she needs a high AP build to do her job

: Karma is capable of dishing out carry level damage but since both of her main damaging abilities have a defensive aspect to them, she can burst and protect at the same time.

: Good damage with Javelin Toss and Aspect Of The Cougar abilities. Her Primal Surge has a great AP ratio, so again she is build predominantly AP. Her passive makes her one of the best roamers in the game.

: a good hybrid DPS champion but actually supports the best when build mostly AP with a Lich Bane since Divine Blessing and her other abilities are based predominantly on AP. Also can be built as a tanky DPS semi-effectively.

: high damage output when built AP, but still retains tankiness because of his high base health. He also is a very good tank.

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Examples of defense supporters

: one of the best healing champs. She can be built tanky support or tanky AP depending on what you want.

: Can be both offense and defense support, but is generally played more as a defensive character than an offensive one.

: Another champion who can go both ways. Build as a tank and you have an offense support who can initiate beautifully. Build with a little extra AP and you have your back up caster, although her healing ability has a horrid AP ratio. Build straight support (AD or AP) and you have the last thing your team will need.

: Better as a defense support, but can be a decent offense support. Her healing ability has a terrible AP ratio (just like Janna's) but her other abilities have fairly high ones, so some AP is ok even when playing defensively.

: Though she actually deal carry level damage, she is also a decent defense support. Generally your build should still be predominantly AP, because she relies heavily on her abilities.

: Since she can viably be built as a tanky support or pure tank, she can be a very good defense support.

: One of the best defensive supporters whether you build him as a straight tank or as an AP tank. Most of his damage comes from Vorpal Blade, Ki Strike, and autoattacks, so he's not a super high damage dealer. His Shadow Dash is extremely good for initiating and he keeps the team running with Stand United.

ANY input would be awesome! I want my WIP guide(from which this stuff is quoted) to be based on your opinions.
Feel free to give me builds for the champs, tell me to move them around, give me more options to add to my lists, give me better descriptions (in which case I will quote you in the guide), or whatever else you feel like saying in response to this.

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] Offense support: [list] Can deal quite a bit of damage, but also has abilities that grant defense of some kind (A heal, a shield, you get the idea) Could carry the whole team if needed, but wouldn't be as effective as the true carry Has both combative and defensive assists Not always considered a "support", but generally functions in a supportive matter. [/list] Defense Support: [list] Not always a high damage dealer Keeps the team up and running, but couldn't carry if they needed to Mostly has defensive assists, but they might have a few from actual combat Usually considered a "support" [/list][/quote] ^^Based on this concept I'd like to categorize the [color=#ffff00][b]supportive champions[/b][/color] (tanks, supports, and the like) into their respective categories (offense supporter/defense supporter). So far I have: [quote=The_Nameless_Bard] Examples of offense supporters [[Lux]]: has high damage output and good CC . Also has a lot of spell range. Her prismatic shield scales with her AP, so high AP makes her better at supporting. [[Morgana]]: has high damage output and good CC. Her Black Shield also scales off her AP, so again she needs a high AP build to do her job [[Karma]]: Karma is capable of dishing out carry level damage but since both of her main damaging abilities have a defensive aspect to them, she can burst and protect at the same time. [[Nidalee]]: Good damage with Javelin Toss and Aspect Of The Cougar abilities. Her Primal Surge has a great AP ratio, so again she is build predominantly AP. Her passive makes her one of the best roamers in the game. [[Kayle]]: a good hybrid DPS champion but actually supports the best when build mostly AP with a Lich Bane since Divine Blessing and her other abilities are based predominantly on AP. Also can be built as a tanky DPS semi-effectively. [[Alistar]]: high damage output when built AP, but still retains tankiness because of his high base health. He also is a very good tank. [/quote] AND [quote=The_Nameless_Bard] Examples of defense supporters [[Soraka]]: one of the best healing champs. She can be built tanky support or tanky AP depending on what you want. [[Taric]]: Can be both offense and defense support, but is generally played more as a defensive character than an offensive one. [[Janna]]: Another champion who can go both ways. Build as a tank and you have an offense support who can initiate beautifully. Build with a little extra AP and you have your back up caster, although her healing ability has a horrid AP ratio. Build straight support (AD or AP) and you have the last thing your team will need. [[Sona]]: Better as a defense support, but can be a decent offense support. Her healing ability has a terrible AP ratio (just like Janna's) but her other abilities have fairly high ones, so some AP is ok even when playing defensively. [[Karma]]: Though she actually deal carry level damage, she is also a decent defense support. Generally your build should still be predominantly AP, because she relies heavily on her abilities. [[Kayle]]: Since she can viably be built as a tanky support or pure tank, she can be a very good defense support. [[Shen]]: One of the best defensive supporters whether you build him as a straight tank or as an AP tank. Most of his damage comes from Vorpal Blade, Ki Strike, and autoattacks, so he's not a super high damage dealer. His Shadow Dash is extremely good for initiating and he keeps the team running with Stand United. [/quote] ANY input would be awesome! I want my WIP guide(from which this stuff is quoted) to be based on your opinions. Feel free to give me builds for the champs, tell me to move them around, give me more options to add to my lists, give me better descriptions (in which case I will quote you in the guide), or whatever else you feel like saying in response to this.[/quote]