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Spells:
Ghost
Ignite
Ability Order
Blade's End (PASSIVE)
Talon Passive Ability
Introduction
Main rune set
Other runes worth considering
Mercy
Cutthroat
Mercy
Pretty good passive, 10% can be quite a bit this actually works with Autoattack part of
but not on the bleed effect. Your autoattacks will do around 1k damage on carries lategame with the help of this passive.Mercy
Tips and tricks:
- Combine with
or red buff for good results.
This ability scales very well into lategame, the bleed effect lasts 6 seconds dealing damage each second with a 0.2 AD ratio totalling a 1.2 Bonus AD ratio for the total damage. Note that with this ability active you can still crit which is amazing. and this ability also works on turrets.
Tips and tricks:- Use right after your autoattack hits to quickly strike again for a good burst of damage.
- the bleed effect will also reveal enemies if they manage to escape or stealth.
This is your farming/harassing tool. the slow is a nice added bonus which works with Mercy. It also hits twice totalling a 1.2 Bonus AD ratio
Tips and tricks:- Rake counts as two spells the blades when they fly away from you and when they fly back to you this can be used to break spell shields for a sacrifice of half the damage, the slow will still be applied on the way back.
- The slow on Rake does not stack when the enemy gets hit a second time it will just reapply the slow.
CutthroatGreat for closing distances the silence/damage amplification is an added plus to stop of their mages for a short while. sadly it doesn't work on anything but enemies.Cutthroat
Tips and tricks:- This can be used to jump over a wall to an enemy. this can be used to surprise them. and give you an edge.
- You will automatically try to autoattack right after blinking to them, you can use right after that autoattack to deal more damage. can also be activated before you blink to them thereby applying Noxian diplomacy right after blinking to them.
This is what defines Talon with a massive 0.9 AD ratio that applies twice totaling a 1.8 AD ratio with the added bonus of stealth and a movement speed bonus. Shadow assault got nerfed recently by adding 15 seconds of cooldown to each level. with 40% cooldown reduction your ult cooldown is now 33seconds instead of 24 which is a shame but 33 seconds is still an acceptable time
Tips and tricks:- Using Cutthroat while Shadow Assault is active will blink you to your target and then recall the blades. the blades will hit them again on the way back to you because you land behind them with cutthroat.
- Shadow Assault combined with
can make you quite the quick one. this can be used to chase or run away just be sure to use ghost before you pop your ult.
- Use right after your autoattack hits to quickly strike again for a good burst of damage.
Item Sequence
Youmuu's Ghostblade
2800
Infinity Edge
3600
Bloodthirster
3400
Frozen Mallet
3100
Last Whisper
1450
Item Sequence
Infinity Edge
3600
Quicksilver Sash
1300
Frozen Mallet
3100
Bloodthirster
3400
Item Sequence
Infinity Edge
3600
Trinity Force
3333
Bloodthirster
3400
Youmuu's Ghostblade
2800
Youmuu's Ghostblade
Gives you armour penetration and AD which is always useful and 15% cooldown reduction which gets your up even quicker. The real deal for me is the active that you get from Ghostblade. The added movement speed and Attack speed is great for chasing down someone who's trying to run away from you. In short for all the stats and the active it gives it's one hell of a deal for just 2687 Gold. I get this almost every game no matter what, it has never failed me in my build it's just so useful.
Doran's Blade
I usually get one of these early on after my (A total of 2 one before and one after my ) to hold me steady until I get my and .
Gives you armour penetration and AD which is always useful and 15% cooldown reduction which gets your up even quicker. The real deal for me is the active that you get from Ghostblade. The added movement speed and Attack speed is great for chasing down someone who's trying to run away from you. In short for all the stats and the active it gives it's one hell of a deal for just 2687 Gold. I get this almost every game no matter what, it has never failed me in my build it's just so useful.
Doran's Blade
I usually get one of these early on after my (A total of 2 one before and one after my ) to hold me steady until I get my and .
I decided to make this section about the
to explain a bit about trinity force and why it's not in my main build.
One of the biggest reasons to get on Talon is for the amplified effect on it. the effect is 150% bonus damage based of your "BASE" AD as an added on hit effect. your base AD is the AD you start with+the AD you gain per level without any runes and items. This at level 18 will be 105.8AD. this will let the sheen effect give you an extra 158.7 bonus damage note that this damage is not increased when you crit with talon. No doubt this adds some great burst to but consider that is not the only ability you use.
Let's compare it with A rather comparable item price wise.
adds 30 AD and the effect.
has a whopping 80 AD (and the +50% crit damage).
Now on to the real part where we compare damage. The will add 197.7(158.7 from the passive+ 30 AD + 9 damage from the AD scaling of ) Damage to your and 230.7 if it crits. the 30 AD will add a total of 126(30*1.2*2 + 30*1.8) to your other skills.
adds a 104 damage to your (80 AD and 24 damage from the AD scaling) and 232 Damage if it crits. (also raises all of your crit damage to 250%(260% if you have the Lethality Mastery) meaning your Total AD will have an added 25-30% damage when it crits. But that's beside the point.) The +80AD will add a total of 336(80*1.2*2 + 1.8*80) to your other skills.
= 197.7 + 126 = 323,6 damage to your initial skill rotation( + + )
= 104 + 336 = 440 damage to your initial skill rotation
So Adds more damage then on Talon cause of his massive AD scaling.
For Talon > .
One of the biggest reasons to get on Talon is for the amplified effect on it. the effect is 150% bonus damage based of your "BASE" AD as an added on hit effect. your base AD is the AD you start with+the AD you gain per level without any runes and items. This at level 18 will be 105.8AD. this will let the sheen effect give you an extra 158.7 bonus damage note that this damage is not increased when you crit with talon. No doubt this adds some great burst to but consider that is not the only ability you use.
Let's compare it with A rather comparable item price wise.
adds 30 AD and the effect.
has a whopping 80 AD (and the +50% crit damage).
Now on to the real part where we compare damage. The will add 197.7(158.7 from the passive+ 30 AD + 9 damage from the AD scaling of ) Damage to your and 230.7 if it crits. the 30 AD will add a total of 126(30*1.2*2 + 30*1.8) to your other skills.
adds a 104 damage to your (80 AD and 24 damage from the AD scaling) and 232 Damage if it crits. (also raises all of your crit damage to 250%(260% if you have the Lethality Mastery) meaning your Total AD will have an added 25-30% damage when it crits. But that's beside the point.) The +80AD will add a total of 336(80*1.2*2 + 1.8*80) to your other skills.
= 197.7 + 126 = 323,6 damage to your initial skill rotation( + + )
= 104 + 336 = 440 damage to your initial skill rotation
So Adds more damage then on Talon cause of his massive AD scaling.
For Talon > .
Infinity Edge
This item will add alot of damage and I mean alot. the +50% crit damage let's your crits do 260% of your AD(combined with Lethality Mastery) and can also crit so it benefits not only from the added AD but also from the crit damage/rate.
The Bloodthirter
Takes a few minion kills to get charged but when you reach the 100AD it's definitely worth it.
Ionian boots of lucidity
Talon his ultimate got nerfed recently by adding 15 seconds to each level. this item will help you reach 40% cooldown to reduce the cooldown of his ult to 33 seconds.
Frozen Mallet
Lategame alot of things will be hitting you pretty hard. this is to help you survive that. with the added benefit of activating your passive with every autoattack and 20AD.
This is probably Talon weakest point in the game cause he is so item dependant Getting a few Doran's Blades early on will help. Take either top or bottom lane, I don't suggest solo laning until are comfortable using Talon. Your first goal is to farm enough for either
or
or
+
. to help accomplish this use
to help you farm/harass. Know who you're laning against use all you know about them to your advantage(cooldown, current mana, mana costs, range) this will help you greatly in timing when to harass and score creep kills.
Try to focus on your creep score as much as possible. You can start ganking after 6.
Try to focus on your creep score as much as possible. You can start ganking after 6.
During teamfights try and go for their mages/carries, let someone initiate and try and get close to their mages/carries close enough for
to be able to hit them on activation. When you are in range use
and then Cutthroat to close the gap between you and them after that(use the active on
now if you have it) autoattack once and then use
. finish them off with rake and autoattacks. Your target should be pretty dead if they didn't escape. after that you can make your exit or go after another target with just
+
+autoattacks. If things get a little bit tough during teamfights try and escape by using Cutthroat on the enemy closest to a safe exit and then using ghost and/or the active from
.
[2/September/2011] Addded Section about Trinity force VS Infinity Edge.
[3/September/2011] Added results
[5/September/2011] Minor corrections
[8/September/2011] Minor corrections and new results
[24/December/2011] For some reason I felt the need to update this build. Talon has received some nerfs which makes it necessary to change his build slightly to keep him being an effective champion. This might also be my last update since this guide hasn't gotten much traffic.
[3/September/2011] Added results
[5/September/2011] Minor corrections
[8/September/2011] Minor corrections and new results
[24/December/2011] For some reason I felt the need to update this build. Talon has received some nerfs which makes it necessary to change his build slightly to keep him being an effective champion. This might also be my last update since this guide hasn't gotten much traffic.
Know your target
Know your enemy
Be careful earlygame
Thanks for reading through my guide. Constructive criticism is very much appreciated as this is my first guide.
Again thanks for reading my guide don't forget to comment and rate and have fun out there playing with Talon.
Know your enemy
Be careful earlygame
Thanks for reading through my guide. Constructive criticism is very much appreciated as this is my first guide.
Again thanks for reading my guide don't forget to comment and rate and have fun out there playing with Talon.
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