Fizz stupidly broken?

[quote=I post stuff]Am I the only one here who hates playing against Fizz? That slippery piece of shit annoys me to no end. He snowballs extremely hard with a single early kill and it's pretty hard to catch or escape from him. I mean, isn't [[playful / trickster]] essentially a free [[Zhonya's Hourglass]]? Before I used to think he's just not fun to play against. Now I also think he's OP because of his high burst and insane mobility. What do you guise think?[/quote]

[quote=Joshified]He has a incredibly good kit for snowballing and insanely high burst. But every champ their weakness's. Put him up against Ryze, then we will see who is the op mid laner.[/quote]

[quote=DKitten]Uh, play [[Lux]] against him. Hell, even [[Ryze]]. Just poke him when he goes to CS. If you zone him out of XP, then you'll hit 6 before he does.[/quote]

[quote=XeresAce]Ryze doesn't really counter fizz imo :/ (Sure, he has decent poke but I doubt he can survive fizz's lvl 6 combo even if fizz only has 2 rings) Lux can't handle his burst - getting caught out of position is certain death. Play Lissandra or panth :3[/quote]

[quote=Joshified]Against Fizz with Ryze you can take either barrier or teleport if you aren't confident. Teleport so you can base early and buy a catalyst/health crystal or barrier so you can suvive his level 6 burst. Just zone him pre 6 then roam.[/quote]

[quote=Jovy]Everyone hates playing vs Fizz, that's why he's banned 9.5 out of 10 times :P[/quote]

[quote=sirell][quote=DKitten] Uh, play [[Lux]] against him. Hell, even [[Ryze]]. Just poke him when he goes to CS. If you zone him out of XP, then you'll hit 6 before he does. [/quote] [[lux]] is only a soft counter at best. [[fizz]] can dodge the Q snare and close the distance quite easily. But if he gets caught in a Q, a full burst rotation from [[lux]] could possibly 100-0 him before anything else happens. [[ryze]] doesn't really counter [[fizz]] anymore due to the range nerfs. That [[ryze]] has to come in range of [[fizz]]'s dives to snare him is kinda risky, particularly early on in the game. You could possibly improve your chances with [[barrier]]. Late game [[ryze]] can handle [[fizz]] much better due to surviving the burst much better (especially after [[banshee's veil]] or [[spirit visage]]), but all in all, there's no definitive counter to [[fizz]] at the moment.[/quote]

[quote=SEALynx]From experience, I would think that any champion capable of pushing the wave early and zoning him would be an effective counter to him earlygame. And I have also noticed that rushing [[Chalice of Harmony]] with [[Negatron Cloak]] will give [[Fizz]] a really hard time in lane provided you don't lose out in CS or feed a kill to him. I like playing [[Orianna]] vs [[Fizz]] for this reason.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]I play [[gragas]] against him and it works well. You can counter many of his moves, but, as with everybody, being caught out is bad. The fatman has an escape and a displacement, which makes it easier to bait his OP shit and knock him away to get the hell out. Once you hit 6, you need to bait him close to your tower and knock him in AFTER he uses his free zhonya. R to knock in, E to slow, Q to damage, AA, tower hits, kill, farm, roam. A safe/zoning [[nidalee]] with [[barrier]] should do well too. But yeah, he's borderline OP.[/quote]

[quote=xIchi]He is an assassin, and a rule for assassins is always: high rist, high reward. But in Fizz' case it is 'no risk, high reward' which makes him way 2 strong[/quote]