How to counter Wukong

[quote=Luther3000]^ Ryze, perhaps?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Ryze was the closest lane I ever had but I didn't lose it.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=DuffTime] Maybe I never played good enough ones, but none of those matches have countered my Olaf yet. ^_^ [/quote] I'm not exactly the genius of solo top, but Anyday pal, anyday[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=ZioSerpe] [quote=DuffTime] Maybe I never played good enough ones, but none of those matches have countered my Olaf yet. ^_^ [/quote] I'm not exactly the genius of solo top, but Anyday pal, anyday [/quote] Shit just got real.[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol][quote=PsiGuard] [quote=Pølsemanden] #1 Can out-sustain him #2 When he runs away, slow/stun him and turn on "w" trade won! #3 After lvl 5 u should be able to 1v1 him(with armour seals and quints.) [/quote] 1. Irelia's sustain is unreliable as it is based off of on-hit life return (not actually lifesteal). No one maxes [[Hiten Style]] either, so your sustain isn't nearly as strong as most other sustain champions. 2. Wukong's use [[Decoy]] to retreat. You can't [[Equilibrium Strike]] him if he's invisible. 3. Almost all solo tops have armor seals. Wukong also has [[Crushing Blow]] to help him deal with enemy armor. I'm not saying that Irelia can't beat Wukong, but it's certainly not as simple as you make it sound. [/quote] 1: WOW what else is there to max on irelia against wukong? o0 2:if Wu uses decoy every time to retreat he will b oom after like 2-3 combos (easy w/ armor runes and early cloth/chain mall) 3: irelias main damage is her W and she pretty much 1v1s any1 while her W is up. i dont quite understand but okay there is alot that actually wins against wukong. just pick sth with sustain i rape wukong with tryndamere, skarner, udyr (just my 3 mains but they pretty much win against any1^^) teemo is rly good against wukong aswell and there are several other great picks the main thing is to play armor seals+quints tho against champs like wu, garen or gp^^ thats toplane 101 xD (several exeptions but most champions should run alot of armor vs phys top + jungler) greez sam[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=ZioSerpe] I'm not exactly the genius of solo top, but Anyday pal, anyday [/quote] Okie, we can run some matches later. I'm always eager to find out what wins or loses ^_^ [quote=samgoeslol] 3: irelias main damage is her W and she pretty much 1v1s any1 while her W is up. [/quote] She loses to a bunch of champs with or without W active too though.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=DuffTime] [quote=ZioSerpe] I'm not exactly the genius of solo top, but Anyday pal, anyday [/quote] Okie, we can run some matches later. I'm always eager to find out what wins or loses ^_^ [/quote] Better wait for riot reply to my ticket, today lag killed me and it still is, to the point I'm playing EUW out of desperation.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=ZioSerpe] Better wait for riot reply to my ticket, today lag killed me and it still is, to the point I'm playing EUW out of desperation. [/quote] G'luck with that, I've had 200+ ping issues for a week and Riot still haven't given a proper response to my ticket.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=Luther3000] [quote=ZioSerpe] Better wait for riot reply to my ticket, today lag killed me and it still is, to the point I'm playing EUW out of desperation. [/quote] G'luck with that, I've had 200+ ping issues for a week and Riot still haven't given a proper response to my ticket. [/quote] If these assholes only allowed to trasfer my account to EUW <.<[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=samgoeslol] [quote=PsiGuard] [quote=Pølsemanden] #1 Can out-sustain him #2 When he runs away, slow/stun him and turn on "w" trade won! #3 After lvl 5 u should be able to 1v1 him(with armour seals and quints.) [/quote] 1. Irelia's sustain is unreliable as it is based off of on-hit life return (not actually lifesteal). No one maxes [[Hiten Style]] either, so your sustain isn't nearly as strong as most other sustain champions. 2. Wukong's use [[Decoy]] to retreat. You can't [[Equilibrium Strike]] him if he's invisible. 3. Almost all solo tops have armor seals. Wukong also has [[Crushing Blow]] to help him deal with enemy armor. I'm not saying that Irelia can't beat Wukong, but it's certainly not as simple as you make it sound. [/quote] 1: WOW what else is there to max on irelia against wukong? o0 2:if Wu uses decoy every time to retreat he will b oom after like 2-3 combos (easy w/ armor runes and early cloth/chain mall) 3: irelias main damage is her W and she pretty much 1v1s any1 while her W is up. i dont quite understand but okay there is alot that actually wins against wukong. just pick sth with sustain i rape wukong with tryndamere, skarner, udyr (just my 3 mains but they pretty much win against any1^^) teemo is rly good against wukong aswell and there are several other great picks the main thing is to play armor seals+quints tho against champs like wu, garen or gp^^ thats toplane 101 xD (several exeptions but most champions should run alot of armor vs phys top + jungler) greez sam [/quote] If you max [[Hiten Style]], you have no burst, and Wukong can just [[Decoy]] to prevent the majority of the damage trade. If you max [[Equilibrium Strike]], you have burst, but little sustain. I'd hardly think he'd be running out of mana just because he used a couple of abilities. Wukong doesn't have very high mana costs, and I've never had mana problems with him so far. Wukong is also not a typical autoattacker. A lot of his damage comes from maxing [[Numbus Strike]] and landing [[Crushing Blow]] if necessary. If he can take the damage trade, your armor will be reduced for subsequent hits, and his attack speed will also be increased. Maxing [[Hiten Style]] assumes that you'll have the opportunity to hammer away at him with multiple auto attacks, which is made difficult by [[Nimbus Strike]] and [[Decoy]]. Even if he isn't able to win damage trades, it's not too hard to passively farm with [[Nimbus Strike]]. His last-hitting is about as good as irelia. I agree that she out-sustains him, but that doesn't guarantee you a victory in the lane. Your personal experience proves nothing, especially since Wukong is not a commonly played champion. Also, all of the champions you listed are strong solo tops and I'm not surprised you were able to win a lane. The fact that people beat Nidalee with Cho'Gath does not prove that the one champion counters the other. Anyway, the point of my argument was not that Wukong is un-counterable, or that Irelia is a weak champion, or that Irelia doesn't have strengths that she can use to her advantage. My point was that you cannot win against a decent wukong by just locking in Irelia, pressing W and right-clicking him. It's possible that Irelia might be a decent counter-pick to Wukong, but she certainly doesn't just auto-win the lane leaving Wukong with no chance.[/quote]