"Pro" Guides

[quote=Sinjustice]Why are they in a category with the rest of us? They should be in another portion of the site entirely. I don't even get why they were given a special section. Their guides are among the poorest quality guides here, but they're trumping other great guides because of their name-fame. Granted, some of them (Elementz) have started to up their quality a bit, but others are pathetic, 5 minute efforts that are stomping all over other people's hard work. The ones that are bad, can't handle criticism and resort to insulting those who criticize them. [quote=Saintvicious]I make a guide to give a advice, you read the guide not to give advice its to take it.[/quote] This is the attitude that's being brought. It's the same attitude that is discouraged by staff/vets all over the site. Why should anyone be an exception? I feel like I'm the only one outraged by this. Why does nobody else seem to care? These "Pro" guides are a negative influence on MOBAfire, not to mention half the Pros themselves are just, for lack of a better word, dicks, flaunting their in-game credentials like it makes them good at guides and we should treat their crap like ice cream. /rant[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]Duly noted.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Doesn't really matter to me. Only Elementz has made a guide for a champion I have as well and, it's different so, there's no competition factor IMO.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]This is actually being discussed in the vet forums right now, and something will be done. Thinking about removing their guides entirely from normal guide searches, so that you can only find them under a "Pro" section, and they won't show up in the normal searches for champs. We have noticed that they aren't participating as much in the community as we had hoped for :/ Something will be done, rest assured.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]At least you guys are looking into this. I don't look at the pro guides to often but, Elementz seems to be doing a good job of managing his... criticism.[/quote]

[quote=palzm]You guys should have something like a normal section for all of us mobafire guide builders. and a section that is featured for the Pros to make it in.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]Yep just like I said we are considering doing.[/quote]

[quote=Sinjustice][quote=JunSupport] Duly noted. [/quote] [quote=wRAthoFVuLK] This is actually being discussed in the vet forums right now, and something will be done. Thinking about removing their guides entirely from normal guide searches, so that you can only find them under a "Pro" section, and they won't show up in the normal searches for champs. We have noticed that they aren't participating as much in the community as we had hoped for :/ Something will be done, rest assured. [/quote] Okay, I'm glad it's being taken into consideration. I keep getting aggravated in arguing with them. I'm too passionate about it for my own damn good, and I feel like I'm making a fool of myself for criticizing them and sticking up for myself, since it seemed like no one else cared. It's good to see I was wrong and other people are feeling the same.[/quote]

[quote=doisuckorwhat]Well, seems vulk alreay put my worries to rest. I'm very glad somethings being done about this right away, impressed with mobafires instant action on it actually. I feel as if anyone even remotely TRYS to offer even the smallest bit of advice, as opposed to the normal 'omg you're so amazing! i have to +1 with a fanboy cmoment cuz U SO FAMOUS!@#!@$ZOR!' comment, they usually turn it around and throw it right back in their face and have the rest of their fannies jump on them as well causing a riot. It's depressing to see 'professionals' acting like such children.[/quote]

[quote=Bryun]I'm going to get some hate but whatevs. I don't really think separating the "Pro's" into a different section will do any difference. The majority of the people who visit MobaFire come for the guides/builds and whatever it may be people are shallow enough to just go straight to the pro guides, I mean who would trust a guide by a person who they've never heard of? With that being said creating a section for them would just separate their builds/guides to somewhere else, people are going to still look at it no matter how hard you try. Call me fan-boy if you want but I'm just giving my opinion. Also, I have no problem with their guides and I think they are doing fine with them. To me all I really need is the generalization of the item build and some information to get why they decided on the items/runes/masteries. With that you can build off and make your own item build. To be honest I do use Solo-Mid's guides more than MobaFire's because it's a full-proof item-build by the 2000+ ELO players, it can't not be viable and the guides aren't usually that in-depth but just explains the concept of each thing. Whatever it may be at least they are [i]contributing[/i]. They don't need to do this you know. (Unless it's some sponsorship type thing, us members don't know about). RAGE SHIELD ACTIVATE. EDIT: Also I don't see how they are acting childish... Wouldn't you retaliate if you were really harshly criticized by someone over how the aesthetics of the guide looks, I read your post on saintvicious's guide and it was just rude, you could have said it any nicer? [quote=Sinjustice] So in other words, Saintvicious makes really low quality guides/builds that don't even match up with themselves. Check. [/quote] Anyone would be mad. I don't think that's criticism, it's just being rude. And before you use the "build sequence is diff" He says in the guide If you're ahead go [[Trinity Force]]. If you're behind build tank first. Clearly he used the safer build as his main item sequence. What if you're not fed and you build [[Trinity Force]]? Could lead to a downfall in your game....[/quote]